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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:52 pm 
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Apple always put that as they want everyone on the latest versions.

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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:53 pm 
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I do hope that that is correct.


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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:48 pm 
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This maybe useful:
https://www.macworld.com/article/322453 ... anges.html

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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:04 pm 
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Ringtones also gone. So I wonder how I am going to get ringtones I've created onto my iPhone in the future?

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I wondered the same as I have a custom ringtone (old UK bell ring-ring). I hope iOS 11 does not cause them to vanish. Updates are full of tricks. I'll find out next week. I've lived with losing customised things before with both Apple and MS.


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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:25 am 
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I did a search this morning on the ringtone issue and found the link below. It seems it should be possible. I'm not in a position to test it at this time, but here it is anyway.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8064597


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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:17 am 
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I have 27.63 GB of apps in my iTunes Library. That may take a little while to download again on each device - if I wanted to install them all on my iPhone and iPad obviously.

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"So I wonder how I am going to get ringtones I've created onto my iPhone in the future?"
Waltr will do that.


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 Post Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:54 pm 
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Ramaprem wrote:
"On the first point, as I understand it, you need iTunes 12.7 to support anything to do with iOS 11."
This is my understanding, also. This is how I read the news.

Yes, but presumably iTunes on the iPad IS 12.7? I shan't be syncing iTunes between iPad and iMac so that aspect worries me not one jot.

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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:09 pm 
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Jonah wrote:
Ringtones also gone. So I wonder how I am going to get ringtones I've created onto my iPhone in the future?


I was thinking the same thing. I've got loads that I've edited for message tones, ringtones etc. Thats one thing I will be hacked off with. Such a small thing I know, but actually, it's one thing that personalises the phone. They're still on it at the moment, but I see no way around getting them back on if I ever have to wipe it.

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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:57 pm 
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Waltr will do that.


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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:34 am 
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This morning I set up my new iPhone via iTunes backup. It apparently transferred everything but the custom ringtones and fingerprints. I did get Waltr for this eventuality and used it to put the tones back. Only two. The pity is it only has 14 days use without paying. Now can't put any music on from my local MP3 stash via iTunes. I do not want to use iCloud to store 67GB of them so I can borrow them back. Options are adding duplicates to my Apple Music and downloading those or paying for Waltr 1 or 2. Not urgent, but a bugger nonetheless. I can see how Waltr could be worthwhile. I don't like paying in $ is the only snag, but I could get over it.


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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:38 am 
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You will want Waltr 2 - not 1 - if you decide to purchase it.


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 Post Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:56 am 
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Well yes. Wifi and all that. 1 did get stuck on one file but I just quit and tried again. Good enough.


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 Post Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 12:06 pm 
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"I don't like paying in $..."
I paid a fraction of the cost for Waltr 2 - through stacksocial.

I have paid a fraction of the cost of many apps through this service.


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