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 Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 5:46 pm 
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Yep, you read that right...

https://sixcolors.com/post/2018/05/today-mac-os-x-is-as-old-as-the-classic-mac-os/

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 Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:09 pm 
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My first experience of the original OS was in the late 80s when the paper I was working on decided to go for DTP. We had Apple IICX running (IIRC) QuarkXpress 2.2. We had a chap come in for a couple of days to coach us and then we were left to get on with it... We quickly sorted out who had got the best grasp of each element and it did not take too long to get into it. The more difficult bit was QXP.

In preparation, I'd bought an Atari ST (and Calamus) for around £450 (around £1,178 in 2018 according to the web) and that helped me get my head round the way a GUI worked.

Interesting times :D

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 Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:48 pm 
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I don't understand that at all. Classic Mac is now 34 years old. OS X is either 17 or 18 years old depending how you argue it.

OS X will never be as old as Classic Mac.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:03 pm 
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MacBiter wrote:
I don't understand that at all. Classic Mac is now 34 years old. OS X is either 17 or 18 years old depending how you argue it.

OS X will never be as old as Classic Mac.



I think the article talks about when the classic OS stopped getting shipped and OS X started, its lifespan so to speak.

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 Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:56 pm 
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Yes, 34-17 = 17

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You could argue that Classic survived as long as Tiger on PPC (9.2.2) which would be 2006. Even if you don't allow that, it was there on dual-boot Macs up until 2003. In other words there was a reasonable overlap.

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 Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 3:04 pm 
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Maybe it should have said “OS X has now been the primary operating system for Mac* for as long as Classic OS was”.

To be honest though that was a bit too long winded for a thread title.





*As decided by Apple and not the actual Mac user. Just in case anyone argues that they didn’t use OS X from the very first day it was released. I imagine most of us probably didn’t.

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 Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 8:17 pm 
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No - I went in there a few times when it was dual-boot to Jaguar and beat a hasty retreat back to 9.2.2! I didn't fully convert to OS X until Tiger on a G5 iMac in 2006. I did run Classic from within Tiger, but not often as Tiger would still run AppleWorks, and I'd got myself an OS X version of FileMaker Pro. Even Photoshop 7 would run, so I had no real reason to linger in Classic.

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I was quite fortunate in that we had we had a year of OS9 on the Bondi Blue iMacs at College before we made the transition to OSX when it was released. There was one brand new iMac that was running Cheetah (I think it was called) but it was quite unstable. We all dipped in and out of using it but as the bulk of our work had always been done on OS9, we continued to use that on the Bondi iMacs.

However, the college bought loads of new iMacs a bit further down the line and those were running Puma-we had to use these as they got rid of the original iMacs. It was a far superior experience which is what led me to buy my first iBook which shipped with Jaguar. I occasionally had to boot into OS9 on that though to run the edition of Photoshop that I had and to play a couple of games that wouldn't run on OSX. Fun times!

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 Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:16 pm 
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If this is morphing into a thread about experiences with OS 9 versus OS X then I'll just tell you about my experience, not that it's worth anything much, it's just another experience.

I bought one of the original Bondi blue iMacs in November, 1998 I think, finally there was a Mac that was affordable (I was pretty happy with the Atari 1040 ST then, but the Mac was obviously leagues ahead) and I was very impressed by it from the word go. It was running OS 8.1 out of the box, and I upgraded via 8.6 to 9 and 9.2 eventually but stayed on it in preference to OS X because like you Dan, I tried 10.0 Cheetah that I installed externally temporarily - but it really didn't perform very well. Slow and buggy. It was interesting to look at but it wasn't a patch on 9.2

So then came Puma - I tried that but wasn't convinced, since everything was working so well in OS 9.

Finally when Jaguar came that's when I decided to move, it did finally work very well - although I was still booting into OS 9 for some time, and later using the classic environment a fair amount but gradually I have weaned myself off Classic and don't use it for anything now.

As you know I've stuck with Mavericks because it's the last OS that I can use which has an interface which I like - and the computers I use are the last versions which can be internally upgraded easily (2012 MBP and Mini) and they can also use Mavericks - before Macs became largely un-upgradable. At least I can make it perform in a way that I'm happy with, with hardware upgraded Fusion drives and software add-ons - but these are now increasingly incompatible or blocked by Apple on any later releases such as Yosemite onwards.

Mavericks for me until something else of major consequence happens!

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My first Mac experience was an old pass me down Performa running OS7. That was enough to make me buy something newer so bought a powermac G4 DP800mhz dual boot OS9.2 and OSX (not sure whether it was 10.0 or 10.1 now). Stuck with that till Tiger. Later got an end of line G4 17" powerbook with 10.4. Eventually upgraded to 10.5. The powermac got changed for a used 27" iMac with 10.6. Missed a few upgrades but it's now running 10.13. The powerbook (video cable through the hinge is damaged) got changed for a used MacBook Pro (last of the 17" ones) now running 10.13. Also have a 2010 Mac Pro running 10.13.
Only really used OSX in it's various iterations.

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Speaking of the G4 PBs, I've still got mine (15"), running Leopard. They really were / are superb machines, and when I fire mine up I'm amazed that it is still very competent. AStoundingly, it's actually QUICKER in some respects (e.g. booting from cold) than my i7 iMac with a Fusion drive running Mavericks. Of course, it's a lot less feature-rich, but food for thought nevertheless...

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Ha Ha Ha. My experience it a mixture of a few on here. I inherited my dads proforma 6300 running 7.5 I then seen Tesco selling the slot loading iMac for £599, £100 cheaper than anywhere else (grey market), I convinced my mrs that it would be great for my 3 year old son, it was running macOS 9. I remember paying £120 I think for 10.2 Jaguar. I had that until I updated to the G5 iMac. Now running a 27" 5k iMac.

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I started on a powerbook 150 running OS7, then a powerbook G3 lombard. migrated to a grey iMac dvse then a g4 iMac. convinced the mrs that a G5 iMac was the way to go and got one of them too. then a 2009 iMac i5 27" and now on a 27" 5K iMac with a 2tb ssd and still paying it up lol. miss the old system noises and start up chime though


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