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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:31 am 
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For the sake of full disclosure - MacBook Pro Retina 15" 2015 - mac OS 10.13.1.

I have, in settings, the 'Show keyboard and emoji viewers in menu bar' ticked in the Keyboard section. This puts the icon like a window with the 'cmd' symbol on the menu bar. I've always had this selected since Yosemite and have always had the glitch outlined below.

Every now and again, the symbol changes from the window/cmd image to the Union Flag (it is Jack only when on the blunt end of a boat ;)). I am guessing this is somehow associated with having the British keyboard selected (and others removed) and maybe other nationalities get their flag. I can reset it by clicking on it but then it can flip back at a seemingly random time. Does anyone else get this? Has anyone got an explanation? I have done many searches over the years and never found mention of it let alone a reason. I had thought it was caused by the browser or site(s) detecting my KB layout but it isn't something I can reproduce.

It all still works but it is just something I don't know and that not knowing makes my brain itch. I bet it is something really simple. Maybe this is normal and I haven't been told.

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:46 am 
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I have both 'Show input source in menu bar' and 'Show Character viewer in menu bar' ticked. It displays the Union flag, but the sub menu shows both Keyboard and Character viewers (which it presumably wouldn't if that option wasn't ticked?)

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:07 am 
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Aha you may be onto something there. I think the wording is different between out mac OS versions. In System Preferences > Keyboard > Input Sources, I have a tick in 'Show input menu in menu bar'. If I deselect, the whole viewer item goes. If I go to the Keyboard tab of the Keyboard settings, 'Show keyboard and emoji viewers in menu bar' is unticked. If I tick that then it comes back but then the Input Sources gets ticked and, well, round in circles. I think you have eased my mind on this as that seems to be where it comes from. Just can't make up it's mind which icon to display. I can live with that now I have an idea what is going on.

Big thanks to you.


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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:18 am 
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I'm not using your system and can't contribute directly but in Mavericks I know that you have to have at least one other language available for it to show the Union Jack in the menu bar. If there is only British keyboard available it is a grey symbol. So I add Australian as another option even though I don't use it. Or US. I know you're talking about emojis and other things, those are things I don't know anything about and don't use. Sorry if that turns out not to be useful information.

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:22 am 
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Leewave wrote:
I'm not using your system and can't contribute directly but in Mavericks I know that you have to have at least one other language available for it to show the Union Jack in the menu bar.

Yes - if I click the Union flag icon in the menu bar, I see there is a choice between British and US.

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:29 am 
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There is only British on mine but I can see how it would show the selected language/layout. Thanks.

Now we have it 'sorted' - digression time - it is not Jack ;). A common mistake and one I used to make until the pedant in me was otherwise informed. Same as people saying Big Ben rather than the Elizabeth Tower. BB is the low bell. The tower was never called that. Google isn't a verb. I have a ball point pen. I use sticky tape. I have a vacuum cleaner (and Hoover isn't a verb). You can have a lot of fun correcting people. It makes for really good friendships. Why, I have two in my contact list.


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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:31 am 
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You have two "friendships" in your contact list? Or are they friends? :-)

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No friends. (I'm kidding - they are just people I know. I hate you all :lol: )


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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:44 am 
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Leewave wrote:
You have two "friendships" in your contact list? Or are they friends? :-)

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No friends. (I'm kidding - they are just people I know. I hate you all :lol: )

:lol: :lol: :lol:

(Shouldn't there be a comma after "No"? (The pedant in me..))

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 Post Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:53 am 
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MacBiter wrote:
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(Shouldn't there be a comma after "No"? (The pedant in me..))

No, he really means he has no friends.
:lol: :lol:

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There should indeed be no comma. The quiet life ftw 8-)


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Back to the thread. I'm on HS too but the icon in the menu bar has always been what you call the screen with the command symbol in it. It has never changed, when I click on it it gives me the option of show Emoji and Symbols OR show keyboard viewer. Checking in keyboard settings in system prefs under input sources gives me a pane, on the left the union jack showing British, on the right a pic of a keyboard. Under it I have "show input menu in menu bar" I've never seen anything change in the menu bar. Hope this helps.

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It's very tedious the way they've changed 'Character Viewer' to 'Emoji and Symbols'. Emoji is ONE set out of 103 available (yep, I counted them all...).

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