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Author:  jezza [ Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:45 pm ]
Post subject:  UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
Hi,

Knowing what we now know, that winning isn’t always a victory, would you like to have another chance?

Another Referendum; same question...

..(maybe they may fine tune the options, to explain that staying in the EU would result in being EXACTLY where we currently are in our relationship with the EU…

… and leaving would be on the current conditions the UK Gov have secured.)


So, anyone fancy a fresh go at a vote?


I have our own M4M Poll set up (see above) - anyone can vote, no need for a post but a few lines on your choice or non-choice would be welcome.

(Results of previous poll : )


Happy Christmas.

:)
Author:  jezza [ Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
..and we are off.

Thanks for the votes in the Poll - But do leave a thought as to why you voted.

We love a nice friendly fireside debate over a few pints here.


I voted Stay, (I was Undecided in the last Poll here) .. mainly after watching and listening to two years of spiraling lunacy.


;)
Author:  Paw [ Sat Dec 15, 2018 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
Leave and slam the door in their face. The EU are being bloody minded because they can't afford for us to leave, financially and politically.
Author:  loughor [ Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
Out, completely, please. I voted against the Common Market back in the day. Then we were not given the chance to have a say in joining the EU gravy train bureaucracy, probably as we would have said 'no' at the time and the politicians wanted in, for what they could get out of it. I'm a tad miffed with MPs now who want to oppose even when their constituents want out. I'd also be miffed at MPs with the opposite situation. I also have a solution for NI if they don't want a border, but their politicians want to stay big noisy fish in their paddling pool and not re-unite (not that re-uniting is an easy solution and not at all a decision for li'l ol' me to make).

That is the short answer. I don't discuss politics so that's me done in this thread.
Author:  Dave Braine [ Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
Leave, leave, leave! Let us decide what we do, not a bunch of bureaucrats from other countries.
Author:  Jonah [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
Remain.

Leaving will only benefit the very wealthy.
Author:  BDAqua [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
Us & them, it's what the fighting's all about.

Black and blue
And who knows which is which and who is who
Up and down
And in the end it's only round and round
"Haven't you heard it's a battle of words?"
The poster bearer cried
"Listen son", said the man with the gun
"There's room for you inside"

Down and out
It can't be helped but there's a lot of it about
With, without
And who'll deny it's what the fighting's all about?
Out of the way, it's a busy day
I've got things on my mind
For the want of the price of tea and a slice
The old man died.
Author:  jezza [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
Nice one BDAqua.

There was a few literary references in the last Poll/Thread ..

George Orwell and Rudyard Kipling.


Nice to see Richard Wright and Roger Waters getting some deserved attention.


And it contains the priceless line...'I mean good manners don't cost nothing do they, eh?'
Author:  BDAqua [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
:D
Author:  davesoa [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
I don’t believe we should use this lovely forum for political/religious etc debate. There are many other arenas where you can express your opinions on this contentious matter. No one will be persuaded or influenced either way by any strongly held views that are expressed.

I ask the Mods to lock or delete the post before someone gets offended.
Author:  jezza [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
@davesoa - You could have PM'd that to a Mod rather than posted it here.

But as one Mod has already participated in the Thread, I would assume the Thread is ok.

Let me reassure you, the Poll is to see if there is any change from the last one I set up here. (See link in first post)

We had a nice chat last time and I'm hoping for the same again.

j
Author:  Jonah [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
It’ll be ok if everyone is civil. If it gets unruly then it gets locked. That’s always been the mac4mac policy.
Author:  Leewave [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
That's a great policy and fortunately it's very rarely needed in this nicest and most civilised of forums!
Author:  Leewave [ Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
I voted remain, but I can see it both ways. The EU needs a big Reformation if we were to stay in. Which I guess would be a lot of hard work and wouldn't really achieve what everybody wanted. I'm not a politician so I wouldn't know if it's actually a viable possibility to improve the EU dramatically but I think they ought to give it a go! I would like to be European. It's impossible to know what it will be like if we actually leave! Until we do. Which I guess is going to happen. But I think it's a shame.
Author:  jezza [ Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: UK ~ GB and NI and the EU (part 2)
Many thanks for the votes... sort of like last time really.

This, I found of interest, particularly if you work in this field...

Brexit is what happens when you approve a change request to move your firewall management in house, instead of renewing mgmt contract.

But you don’t know admin passwords, don’t own the firewalls, don’t know firewall rules, don’t know how to do it, and contract expires next week.


Found on Marcus Hutchins twitter feed - but originally from a chap called gossithedog - twitter

(I'm not on it, I just browsed his timeline.)

Nice analogy eh?

Keep the votes coming - With or without a post.
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