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In - Out - or Still Undecided
Poll runs till Fri Mar 29, 2019 1:45 pm
Remain in the EU 76%  76%  [ 16 ]
Leave the EU 24%  24%  [ 5 ]
Undecided 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 21
 
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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:52 pm 
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You don't stop learning when you leave school! Speaking English every day - we are always learning.

"Since I did English at school"

no fence mate! :D

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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:16 pm 
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Leewave wrote:
You don't stop learning when you leave school! Speaking English every day - we are always learning.

"Since I did English at school"

no fence mate! :D


TBH my spelling at school was terrible. It wasn't until I left school and started working in the real world that my spelling improved dramatically. My grammar is terrible, but I do try. I only ever use , . ' and " I have never used : or ; but we're well of topic now lol.

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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:41 pm 
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It's alright.

The whole debate (in tHoP) is off topic.


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(tHoP - ...hmm, I seem to have invented a new acronym for the Houses of Parliament, not found a confirmation of its use in my google search to check on it...)

Well, there y'go.

Innovation at it's best, eh?

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 Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:38 pm 
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Hi jezza, yes, I understand. I don't really want to get into too much at the mo but I will post next on your "couch" tread. I have refained really because I live in France as you know and a lot of people will say what's it got to do with you. Please be assured it's got A LOT to do with Brits in France (Brexit) better still Brits in Europe. A lot of people will say you left the UK 35 years ago, yes we did but not because it was a bad place. There were other reasons. Next post on your excellent poll on the Couch.



This is the perfect place for your comments as we don't get to hear ex pat's views. Also there are a million one reasons to leave the UK. If your gonna have a better life or your job takes you, maybe chasing a dream, none of which mean you think any less of the UK or being British.

What I don't understand is the SNP. Scotland is part of the UK and part of the EU. The SNP want to break away from the UK but not the EU, I don't understand this. "I don't want London to rule me but I want Brussels to rule me" utter silliness if you ask me. They want to stay part of the EU for trade yet most of out trade is with other parts of the UK which will be lost. We have all heard the expression 2 step forward, 1 step back, well I see the Scotland wanting to bin the UK is 1 step forward and 2 steps back.

I wonder if Scotland did get independence and let the EU run us, would we start driving on the left? Wee Nikki would do anything to please the EU overlords.

Free trade was what the original EU was set up for. This was to take on the USA and USSR whom we could not compete with due to our trade agreements. Why not go back to that instead of trying to create an EU superpower. Look what happened to the USSR, the smaller countries wanted independence from the mighty Russia.Look at the massive empire the UK had, they got their independence from the UK, so why do we want to go backwards.

Some good reading here.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-his ... et-founded

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:20 am 
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The UK - the only place where people who emigrate to another country are called 'ex-pats'. People who move to other countries are immigrants, exactly the same as people who move to this country.

And this not meant as a slight or criticism on anyone.

Language is powerful. Why else would the Brexit newspapers call asylum seekers 'migrants' or say there were 'hordes' of people 'swarming' into the country?

The recent coverage of the people crossing the Channel in small boats was called a 'crisis'. No it wasn't, it was only about 22 people (if I recall correctly) trying to gain access into the country. There was more people found in the back of a lorry on the M6 two nights ago than that so why wasn't that called a 'crisis'?

This may be off on a tangent but immigration was a huge part of the Leave campaign and, in my opinion, influenced many people who I have spoked to, to vote leave. What they didn't realise was that the UK government already had the power to stop people from the EU staying here indefinitely without a job but they chose not to enforce it.

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:02 pm 
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The UK - the only place where people who emigrate to another country are called 'ex-pats'. People who move to other countries are immigrants, exactly the same as people who move to this country.


Whats the matter with calling them ex pats? They migrated to another country, yes. I don't have a problem with immigrants/migrants coming to this country as long as they help make the country prosper. What I don't want is people coming here a taking all our benefits.

This is what illegal immigrants get.

Asylum support
Contents
Overview
What you'll get
Eligibility
How to claim
Further information
What you'll get

You can ask for somewhere to live, a cash allowance or both as an asylum seeker.

Housing
You’ll be given somewhere to live if you need it. This could be in a flat, house, hostel or bed and breakfast.

You can’t choose where you live. It’s unlikely you’ll get to live in London or south-east England.

Cash support
You’ll get £37.75 for each person in your household. This will help you pay for things you need like food, clothing and toiletries.

Your allowance will be loaded onto a debit card (ASPEN card) each week. You’ll be able to use the card to get cash from a cash machine.

If you’ve been refused asylum
You’ll be given:

somewhere to live
£35.39 per person on a payment card for food, clothing and toiletries
You won’t be given:

the payment card if you don’t take the offer of somewhere to live
any money
Extra money for mothers and young children
You’ll get extra money to buy healthy food if you’re pregnant or a mother of a child under 3. The amount you get will depend on your situation.

Your situation Extra payment per week
Pregnant mother £3
Baby under 1 year old £5
Child aged 1 to 3 £3
Maternity payment
You can apply for a one-off £300 maternity payment if your baby is due in 8 weeks or less, or if your baby is under 6 weeks old.

If you’ve been refused asylum
You can apply for a one-off £250 maternity payment if your baby is due in 8 weeks or less or if your baby is under 6 weeks old.

Applying for the maternity grant
You apply for the maternity grant in the same way whether you’re still an asylum seeker or you’ve been refused asylum.

You’ll need to request form MAT B1 from your doctor to apply for the payment. You can apply for the maternity payment at the same time you apply for asylum support.

If you get pregnant after you’ve applied for asylum support, you can apply to the support team that dealt with your application for asylum support.

Healthcare
You may get free National Health Service (NHS) healthcare, such as to see a doctor or get hospital treatment.

You’ll also get:

free prescriptions for medicine
free dental care for your teeth
free eyesight tests
help paying for glasses


Bearing in mind this is Advertised on the government website for all to see. You can check it out anywhere in the world and then decide, this is the place to live.

Far more than my brother in law who had a mental illness got and we had to fight tooth and nail to get him a roof over his head. Why should they get priority over other who have stayed in this country all their lives.


https://www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:39 pm 
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Wow Gary, you sure have done your homework, I'm well impressed. You should see what they get in France . . . pretty much ziltch. no wonder they are heading for UK. We who have lived here nigh on 10 years have to go through a process to get a Carte de Sejour (residency card) which we have to prove we have lived here legally, continuously and we are in the Health and Tax system for five years or more and we have to prove we can support ourselves financially and not be a burden on the state (are you listening UK?). Reams of paper work to go through. Nightmare thanks to Brexit.

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:48 pm 
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...as I have repeatedly said, LEAVE won.

It doesn't matter what reason people voted for Leave, Mind Rays, Migrant Voodoo Zombies, Radio Wave Mind Washing etc, etc etc...

What I want to know in my Poll and Thread is, has anyone changed their mind.

Because despite the win for Leave, no one knows how to Leave.


Forget about migrants (legal or illegal) - It's the reality of where we are that this Thread is about.

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My work mate had to earn over 30k before they would let his wife in, she’s from the USA and is a nurse. Are we not shouting out for nurses !!!

I’d make imigrints work 5 years before they earned the right to the NHS and benefits. That means they would only be accepted if they came here to a job that could keep their family. Look at those over 50 insurance policies, they don’t pay out fully until after 12/24 month. Why can’t we do that with our NHS/DWP.

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You say “illegal immigrants” but then post about asylum seekers. They are two completely different things.

And yes it is difficult to any help when things go wrong. I had a hard time getting anything more than Job Seekers Allowance when I was made redundant in 2011 despite having paid income tax and national insurance for 30 years. I have great sympathy for your brother-in-law and hope that he can get the help he so desperately needs. Mental health is an area that is severely lacking in funding which, of course, causes even more problems for people. But, we as a country, shouldn’t turn our backs on legitimate asylum seekers such as people fleeing war zones.

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 Post Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:52 pm 
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I’d just do a hard brexit. The EU ain’t gonna do us any favours as they don’t want us to succeed. Surely it’s better to leave with nothing than to leave owing them everything. I know it’s better to leave with something but that’s never going to happen.

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My work mate had to earn over 30k before they would let his wife in, she’s from the USA and is a nurse. Are we not shouting out for nurses !!!

I’d make imigrints work 5 years before they earned the right to the NHS and benefits. That means they would only be accepted if they came here to a job that could keep their family. Look at those over 50 insurance policies, they don’t pay out fully until after 12/24 month. Why can’t we do that with our NHS/DWP.



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It gives EEA citizens the right of free movement and residence across the European Economic Area, as long as they are not an undue burden on the country of residence and have comprehensive health insurance.


It’s from here - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens’_Rights_Directive - but I won’t link for some reason.

As far as I know, the government hasn’t insisted on the health insurance. Why I don’t know, as it should be enforced.

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My brother in law died a few years ago. He was a diabetic and with his mental illness he didn’t really look after himself or get the proper help needed. He died when he went into a diabetic coma.

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Very sorry to read that but... this is not what the Thread is about - I am asking if anyone has reviewed their decision and changed their mind regarding Leaving the EU.

So if possible.....

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crapday wrote:
My brother in law died a few years ago. He was a diabetic and with his mental illness he didn’t really look after himself or get the proper help needed. He died when he went into a diabetic coma.


I’m really sorry to hear that.

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